The technology gaint of web is relly dominating the world data control.Google's announcement of its App Engine has naturally generated a lot of buzz, as well as some fear, uncertainty, and doubt. There is the concern that Google will corral even more user data via its App Engine, becoming a kind of 21st century data and advertising baron, as Microsoft has been the operating system and productivity software baron in the last three decades.
If you extrapolate from Google's growing share of search and advertising, and include a growing share of Web applications through its APIs and the fledgling App Engine, you could imagine a Google that becomes the dominant Internet operating system and infrastructure provider. It's still the early days of cloud computing, but the ground is shifting.
"It's funny that we waged the war to free ourselves of shackles of Microsoft and Hailstorm (a failed attempt to manage personal data)," said David Young, CEO of cloud infrastructure provider and App Engine competitor Joyent. "Now, for some reason, the digerati are anxious to run into exact same thing with Google. It's not evil, but they are tracking users and clickstreams, which (are) the real currency of the Web, and most people don't care. If you can get all data, you can target ads and the user experience, such as showing a site in a different color, depending on user profile."
The Web currency of user data and clickstreams is also vital to Joyent's business. The company has 10,000 customers, handles 5 billion page views a month, and provides infrastructure for 25 percent of the third-party applications running on Facebook. Through its Player's Club, Joyent provides free hosting to Facebook developers, as well as OpenSocial developers, in exchange for the data.
"We gather the data and work with ad networks to help their clients target site," Young said. Joyent works with ad networks such as Slide, RockYou, Social Media, Federated Media, and AdBrite. "With billions of visitors, Google can gather the data on its own, but the social networks allow companies like Joyent to get access to it as well," he said. Basically, the majority of developers are willing to share their user data in exchange for free infrastructure services.
"If I were Google, I would buy every big Web application, such as Six Apart and WordPress, out there to get access to clickstream and user data as people move across the Web. I think that is what App Engine is all about," Young said.
In light of App Engine, Joyent is offering a similar infrastructure service (but using MySQL, Postgre SQL, or Oracle databases rather than Google's Bigtable and file system). Like App Engine, the Joyent "Garden of Eden" program includes free infrastructure for Python Web applications in exchange for customer information and clickstream data.
However, Joyent isn't limiting the usage, and it will provide unlimited compute, storage, memory, and bandwidth, as well as root control. Google's App Engine, which is in beta, is limited to 500MB of storage, 200 million megacycles of CPU, and 10GB of bandwidth per day. Young figures that this would support 25,000 unique users a month, while Joyent will support a million users for free.
With all the hand-wringing about Google's increasing footprint and clout, the company is contributing code to the open-source world and driving data portability standards, such as the OpenSocial and Social Graph APIs. David Recordon notes the potential for App Engine sites to log in via Google Accounts.
Today that means that every App Engine site could have a shared sense of a user; the ability to understand who someone is across different App Engine sites and Google services. (Obviously I'd love to see Google move toward supporting OpenID for this sort of thing, but small bits piece by piece work for me.)
Imagine if Google Accounts added support for the (upcoming) OpenSocial REST APIs. All of a sudden, each of these App Engine sites could start injecting activity and querying for activity across each other. Maybe you'll argue that this just means that Google Accounts could become the next big social network, but isn't it a bit different when this functionality is just a part of your hosting infrastructure? What if Google Accounts ignored the notion of friends and instead left that to actual social networks? If done right, this really could be the first shipping glimpse of the distributed social Web that there is to come.
If Google's growth trends continue to accelerate, the company will colonize more Web territory, collecting more data and monetizing it across billions of users and sites. So far, Google has a head start, with its highly profitable search and ad business (which is why Microsoft is in hot pursuit of Yahoo) and is moving into new application territory.
The old guard--Microsoft, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Cisco Systems, Oracle--haven't yet revealed plans for colonizing Web users with end-to-end cloud-based platforms. The have stood by while Salesforce.com becomes a company with $1 billion in annual revenue. Will they be standing on the sidelines as Google and others, such as the 22-person Joyent, prove the viability of cloud platforms as a service?
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Thursday, April 10, 2008
New collabration of google and yahoo for adsense.
Technology field is diversing so fast and critical that its impossible to do all by one. So now a days ots a common era of collabration.
When Microsoft’s offer to acquire Yahoo was made public, Google stated it would be willing to help Yahoo fend off the acquisition in anyway it could. It’s now or never.
Yahoo is talking with Google about having them handle some of the advertisements on its search pages, The Wall Street Journal reports. This partnership is said to be a test for what could become a larger one — which reads a lot like: A test, small enough to make sure the government doesn’t get involved with its antitrust hounds, but with enough promise to allow Yahoo to fend off Microsoft.
Yahoo has been in talks with several other companies about potential partnerships that would allow it to placate the shareholders clamoring for the company to accept Microsoft’s bid, but none of those discussion have proven fruitful. Yahoo has also stated that its financial outlook for the future is good even without any partnerships (our coverage), but that future seems cloudy at best.
While a Google ad partnership may make sense on paper to save Yahoo, one can’t help but wonder if giving away valuable search advertisements is a “cutting off the nose to spite the face” situation, as Allen Stern of CenterNetworks notes.
Microsoft has stepped up its effort in recent days to put pressure on Yahoo to accept its offer. Yahoo has been given three weeks to come to the table and formally talk about a deal before Microsoft will take a less valuable offer directly to the shareholders and seek to put new board members of its choosing in place (our coverage).
Yahoo responded to Microsoft’s threat by basically calling its chief executive, Steve Ballmer, a liar and a cheapskate (our coverage).
The countdown to a nasty public letter from Microsoft about any Yahoo/Google deal, begins now.
update: As we expected, it only took Microsoft a matter of hours to shoot back with a release about the Google/Yahoo deal. It’s only three sentences but emphasizes the point that Google and Yahoo combined control over 90 percent of the search advertising market.
The full statement by Microsoft general counsel Brad Smtih:
“Any definitive agreement between Yahoo! and Google would consolidate over 90% of the search advertising market in Google’s hands. This would make the market far less competitive, in sharp contrast to our own proposal to acquire Yahoo! We will assess closely all of our options. Our proposal remains the only alternative put forward that offers Yahoo! shareholders full and fair value for their shares, gives every shareholder a vote on the future of the company, and enhances choice for content creators, advertisers, and consumers.”
When Microsoft’s offer to acquire Yahoo was made public, Google stated it would be willing to help Yahoo fend off the acquisition in anyway it could. It’s now or never.
Yahoo is talking with Google about having them handle some of the advertisements on its search pages, The Wall Street Journal reports. This partnership is said to be a test for what could become a larger one — which reads a lot like: A test, small enough to make sure the government doesn’t get involved with its antitrust hounds, but with enough promise to allow Yahoo to fend off Microsoft.
Yahoo has been in talks with several other companies about potential partnerships that would allow it to placate the shareholders clamoring for the company to accept Microsoft’s bid, but none of those discussion have proven fruitful. Yahoo has also stated that its financial outlook for the future is good even without any partnerships (our coverage), but that future seems cloudy at best.
While a Google ad partnership may make sense on paper to save Yahoo, one can’t help but wonder if giving away valuable search advertisements is a “cutting off the nose to spite the face” situation, as Allen Stern of CenterNetworks notes.
Microsoft has stepped up its effort in recent days to put pressure on Yahoo to accept its offer. Yahoo has been given three weeks to come to the table and formally talk about a deal before Microsoft will take a less valuable offer directly to the shareholders and seek to put new board members of its choosing in place (our coverage).
Yahoo responded to Microsoft’s threat by basically calling its chief executive, Steve Ballmer, a liar and a cheapskate (our coverage).
The countdown to a nasty public letter from Microsoft about any Yahoo/Google deal, begins now.
update: As we expected, it only took Microsoft a matter of hours to shoot back with a release about the Google/Yahoo deal. It’s only three sentences but emphasizes the point that Google and Yahoo combined control over 90 percent of the search advertising market.
The full statement by Microsoft general counsel Brad Smtih:
“Any definitive agreement between Yahoo! and Google would consolidate over 90% of the search advertising market in Google’s hands. This would make the market far less competitive, in sharp contrast to our own proposal to acquire Yahoo! We will assess closely all of our options. Our proposal remains the only alternative put forward that offers Yahoo! shareholders full and fair value for their shares, gives every shareholder a vote on the future of the company, and enhances choice for content creators, advertisers, and consumers.”
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